It's a Blackberry. What can you even expect?
Disappointment.
Not even that. You just have to brace yourself
prior to using it.
No silly, that is for
tumblr.
Same difference, really.
One makes you insane
and the other makes you high, too big a difference really.
Being high is temporary insanity. Both make
you want to die or go hide under a rock and give up on technology completely. I
beg to differ.
That officially makes 10.42% more epic.
High does not mean
insanity... being high is escaping a sexually transmitted terminal disease
called life.
Don't ask why I know
this.
Dionysus. God of ecstasy, the grape harvest.
Of wine-making and wine. And insanity.
Don't worry. I won't.
Gods, I love him. I
mean how awesome is it to live your life without a care in the world and your
negative emotions suppressed.
It's not. It's not really "living your
life". When everything is perfect, nothing is. Do you know what I mean?
But I guess that kind of gets ruled out when you're an all-powerful immortal
that rules Olympus.
When nothing is
perfect, all you want is perfection and getting your mind lost in this void of
oblivion is one way of getting that. I think that is what Dionysus stands for,
the ability to let go when nothing will stay.
When everything is perfect, all you want is
some imperfection. The very feeling of wanting perfection is what life is.
Getting lost in this void of oblivion is exactly that. It's a void. Empty.
That's exactly what Dionysus stands for, but he stands for it as a part of
life. That's why there are other Gods. Too much perfection is imperfection. Too
much of anything is imperfection. Too much of getting lost and not living your
life, definitely is.
But in this said void
there is no perfection nor is there any imperfection. There is nothing. All is
weights pulling you down and the helium filled elastic balls pulling you up
don't exists. So it is basically a state of bliss where anything and everything
doesn't matter. You can't love, hate, fear, respect, spit on anything that is
don't care about. The other Gods must exist, I said nothing about that, and if
other Gods didn't exist we would be living in a monotonous world where everyone
was happy. But no that is not how life works. There is Happiness, yes. Sadness.
Anger. Youth. Kindness. Mirth. Fear. Bravery. Curiosity. And without each and
every one of them life as we know it would collapse.
If you can't love, hate, fear, respect and (if
you insist) spit on anything, you're not living it. You wouldn't know life. There
would be no "life as we know it", it wouldn't exist. And that's too
big a sacrifice to make for temporary bliss. Bliss is relief. Bliss is
positive. If there is nothing to feel, how would you feel bliss? You would feel
nothing. Not even bliss. And is that any better than life getting destroyed? If
you're ignorant to the existence of what living a life actually is, there is no difference. Ignorance is bliss,
yes. But is it worth it when you can't even feel it?
That is what I am saying; temporarily bliss
gives you chance to take a deep breath from life but in the end you have to get
back into your sorrowful sexually transmitted disease. And ignorance is not the
same as unemotional. Speaking from experience, when you are impassive you do feel
each and every single thing but you don't show it because you rather suffer
your miseries alone. Being unemotional on the other hand means not feeling
anything, period. And when that happens your life is basically not worth
living.
Life is life and it is always worth living.
However bad whatever's happening to you is, you have to move on. There's
someone out there with a life a bazillion thousand times worse. Life doesn't
have to be a misery if you live it right. And even if it is, deal with it. Get
help. If your life's not worth living, make it worth living. Something you
don't like? Change it. As simple as that. There are better things is life.
Humans tend to focus on the negative side of things, forgetting that every coin
has two sides. For everything that makes your life a dark, there's a tiny sun.
The shadows in your life are because of you standing in the way of the sun. All
you need to do is move forward. And escaping is never the answer to anything.
Face it.
Life may not always be
worth it. Sometime the negatives out way the positive but the only way to
balance the scale of life is by adding the positives and for some people the
positive account to ignoring the negatives thus ignorance is bliss. There may
be light in your life but I there is life there has got to be darkness. Plus it
is human tendency to look at the negatives because they are what hurt the most
because it is emotion that drives us into doing whatever we want to do. If you
are standing in the way of the sun it is because you want some of its light.
And I am not saying you don't get it but everything has its price and the price
of light is darkness. And people usually choose the easy part and follow the
darkness rather than taking the hard part and doing the right thing. It is
human thinking. And if we stop thinking like human we stop becoming human.
Ah, but if you stand in the way of the sun for
too long, you burn. Now you should let light do its thing. If you want light from
the sun, let it fall on its own. Negatives overpower positives is what we
think, because as you said and as I said, it is human tendency. It's human
thinking, that's the way it is, right? But just because it is, doesn't mean it
should be. Improving doesn't mean you've stopped being a person, it just means
you've become a better one. It's not like God decided to specifically ruin a
particular person's life. Ultimately, it's your choice. You choose which path
you want to walk. The dark one, or the lit one. And once you make a choice, you
face the consequences. And if we do the easier thing and take the darker path,
you end up in that aforementioned void of oblivion, where life isn't life and
living isn't living. You forget the pain, but you forget even the things you
need to live for. If you take the hard path and do the right thing, your life
won't be perfect. It won't even be completely, absolutely happy. But it will be
life. The imperfection of it makes it perfect. At the end of the day, you
choose your fate. Everybody dies but not everybody lives. And we have no one to
blame but ourselves, as individuals.
You do choose your
life. By the people you interact with and the choices you make make you who you
are. And this journey of creating yourselves you will invariably choose the
more perfect option because you want perfection in your life. And imperfections
just hinder the way of your life. Say you got 14 out of 25 on a test. You can't
just say this is imperfect and that make life perfect. No. Imperfections make
you want to achieve your perfections. And it makes you want to keep trying because
in the end of the day it is all about you. And I couldn't agree more that we
are who are to blame for how our life has turned out. And we are also who are
to blame on what is going to come ahead. And some choose to just keep weeping
on what's wrong. Others change it. And the majority to forget their troubles
for a brief period of time because that is the easiest option and it is not the
right one. I think that is why drinking and weeding is a sin.
Weeding is a word I
invented 5 seconds back.
The getting 14 on 25 isn't what makes life
what it is, it is the resolution to do better next time. Life isn't perfect at
all. The falling down is the bad part. But instead of "getting lost into
oblivion", the getting up and working harder is what living your life is.
So it's improving the imperfections, the existence of imperfection in your
life, that's what life is about. That's what a "perfect" life is.
And anyway, if you were not justifying weeding (cool word btw) I think we're
arguing on the same thing. What the hell.
I am pretty sure we
are. I have known that for some time now. But I liked the conversation so I went.
I don't know if you realized or not but people in general only see what they
want to see. There are very few who see the other side and even fewer who care
because humans are selfish by nature. They always have been. That is how humans
from gatherers and hunters became framers because they got the same amount of
food by cultivated and it took much else energy. And from this agricultural
revolution, civilizations formed. Life were built and empires too. So which
ever smart person said selfishness was a sin never really looked at the other
side of the story.
Technically, selfishness isn't a sin. Humans
have been committing sins since the very beginning of time, and probably before
that too. Almost everything that we do is selfish. In fact, there is barely
anything on this planet that is selfless. Selfishness in itself has become a
negative thing, but when you do something good for someone for the satisfaction
of doing well, technically, you are selfish. But that isn't a sin. For being
selfless, then, you have to do good stuff and not feel good about it. Very few
things like that exist, for me, at least.
And at the end of the
day does selflessness really exist? Maybe in a minimum extend like offering the
last piece of checklists to someone because you don't want it as much as the
other. But what I mean is that selfishness doesn't deserve to be negative
because selfishness is the root of every human. Some foolish humans mistake
selfishness for greediness. But aren't by a bit stupid. There may be a fine
line of difference but there is one. Greediness is excessive. Selfishness is
just enough for yourself. It wants something. And no human can live without
wanting anything because that would lead to no one having an aim in their life.
They would be lost.
Exactly. Selfishness is existing. Selflessness
is coincidental. And that's why I think Abnegation is crap. Being selfless
isn't important. Not being greedy is.
It was suppose to be
crap. It was suppose to die. And then she was suppose to have an revaluation on
the way is live and what she believed in. It is intended because abnegation
literally means the act of renouncing or rejecting something.
Or Self-denial. And the Erudites were smart enough to understand that they were
all takes and that is the reason they disliked them.
Correct. That's why I like Erudite. Taking a
logical approach rather than an emotional one is way more convenient.
Yeah. But I like
dauntless because they defy logic and just listen to their heart.
Listening to the heart can be a dangerous
thing. If you let your heart and not your brain guide you, you make choices
emotionally. And that can lead to weeding (as derived from our conversation).
But please can we not argue about which
faction is better because obviously we won't agree with each other
Listening to your
heart doesn't let foreign substances affect your deduction. If you use your
brain to make every decision it will most probably be revised a million times
and not be who you really are. The brain can be manipulated but the heart. That
is always true to who you really are and if you can truly listen to your heart
it will guide you to the right path. But this topic isn't really debatable
because I bet you are looking at it from your perspective which most probably
is like making a decision about answer to choose in an MCQ. On the other hand I
am looking at it from the view of like choosing what ice cream I want or
something.
Okay, when I choose an ice cream flavor I
choose it because I know it's what i like best and it won't be logical to waste
it on something I hate. Listening to your brain doesn't mean ignoring your
heart, it means controlling it.
Also, the brain is who you really are because if you get manipulated easily it's
your fault. The manipulated you becomes the true you. The heart wastes time on
useless details.
You can never control
anything; especially a heart. When you
listen to your Brain you are ignoring your heart or they are on the same page and
the brain they never who you are because the society brain washes us into
thinking how they want us to think. They put thought in our head which we are
forced to believe in. And the brain wants to listen to society unless you're a
wolf. But almost everyone is a sheep and just follows what society tells them
to follow. Very few of the wolves actually control their own stream of thought,
but your heart. Your instinct will never fail you. And in a 1 second decision
your heart will always overpower the mind.
Not true. Your brain can control your heart.
Your heart doesn't want what is right, it wants what it wants. In the end all
that matters is whether you want to do the right thing or the thing that makes
you happy. It depends on who you're talking about failing. A decision made by
the heart, your instinct, may give you temporary happiness but if it isn't the
right thing to do, you have failed your duty as a human being. Also, do you
think the Erudite brains are the kind that let the society ruin the brain? Erudite
brains are way more powerful. Knowledge is
power, after all.
Every little human
that is born is born with a good heart. And a heart which is strong enough will
not let any bad spirits penetrate through it. And it your heart is dark it is
because you let your mind tricking you into doing something wrong. In the
modern world almost every single person has been trained into listening to
their mind. Why? Because then it is easier for society to control little
minions. And you say Erudite brain makes thing work yes. It is. But it also
ruined Abnegation because the brain can easily be influenced. And it was
influenced into destroying a faction. Knowledge is power. But power is also
beating the crap out of someone and instilling fear in them.
Every little human that is born is born with a
good brain. And a brain which is strong enough will not let any bad spirits
penetrate through it.
You say brains get influenced, fine. Are you saying hearts don't? In fact decisions
made with a heart involve emotion. It involves feeling, feeling of love, want
for vengeance, revenge. A strong enough brain doesn't get influenced that easy.
A good enough brain doesn't beat the crap out of people. The Erudites were led
by Jeanine. Also, in this world, it's the survival of the fittest. The
Abnegation took decisions obviously with lack of heart and obviously without
their brain. They did this to themselves. If I wanted someone to rule, sure, it
would be a person with a good heart, but not a goof that cries every time
something happens. I would want a practical leader. Fear is good. It keeps us
in our limits.
Brains. Brains.
Brains. Anyway a brain is never good or bad. It is either smart or stupid.
Smart people can be good or bad. Stupid people can also be good or bad. And
feelings are what drives a person to do something. Good or bad. It is feelings
like sympathy to help another. Or fear to listen to someone. Or love to get a
gateway for happiness. In the end you need to be smart but you also have to
have a lion heart. Goodnight.
--
Mistleupa and Siriuslyadu
